RAF SPECIAL DUTIES Rayns, John Francis Anthony (Jack)

John Robertson

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  • SURNAME
Rayns
  • FORENAME
John Francis Anthony (Jack)
  • UNIT
148 Squadron (R.A.F.V.R.)
  • RANK
Flying Officer
  • NUMBER
150263
  • DATE OF DEATH
22nd November 1944
  • AGE
21
  • GRAVESITE
Udine War Cemetery, Italy I.B.3
  • ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
born 13.06.1923
son of Alfred Horace and Johanna Rayns, Loughborough, Leicestershire
pilot
Lysander T1456
shot down by US P-51s about 20 miles northeast of Vienna
all passengers killed
 
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Bless my brave Uncle Jack. Credit to all heroes. Lied about his age and signed up to serve his country at 15. Never ever forgotten, Jack. You live on in my youngest, Charlie Jack. My mum’s heart was broken the day you passed. Hope you are together again now xxxx
 
Hi,
Volume Five of "A History of the Mediterranean Air War - 1940-1945", by Christopher Shores & Giovanni Massimello, page 317, lists the location as "32km N. Venice" (Italy), and the Lysander's crew as being "Flg Off J.F.A. Rayns and three...".
An online article on the Nov. 22, 1944 overfly of the small town of San. Donà di Piave (NE of Venice, Italy), by the US bombers returning to their bases in Southern Italy states (my translation)
"...At around 1:30PM, we witnessed the shootdown of an enemy fighter, probably hit by another fighter – perhaps German.
The aircraft was seen fly erratically and then upside down, eventually going down, and hitting the ground at a distance estimated at 10 km from S.Donà di Piave.
I, Sgt. Arturo Antoniazzi, G.N.R. Detachment Cdr. (translator’s note: G.N.R stands for Guardia Nazionale Repubblicana, i.e. the Republican National Guard of Mussolini’s post-1943, Social Republic puppet-state), along with Pvt. Giuseppe Santagata and Corp. Gino Baron, also part of said Detachment, arrived at the crash site. As result of our investigation we hereby report that the aircraft came down in the Formichè district of the village of Ceggia, near the “Tenuta Garibaldi” (“Garibaldi Estate”).
The aircraft appeared completely destroyed by the crash and consumed by the ensuing fire.
The crew, which consisted of three operatives of the Anglo-American propaganda service operating in the Republic, had perished as a result of the crash.
The investigation of the corpses has provided the confirmed identification of one of them, as Renato Piano, born in Milan on Sep. 26, 1926, resident in Rome, Via Giuseppe Garibaldi, 37, I.D. Card # 4.281.982, issued on Sep. 11, 1942, by The Governor, Armando Scaccion. He was carrying a sealed envelope containing 14,900 LIRE, in small-denomination bills, a loaded Constabuli pistol, and a Faculty of Literature, university badge. It was not possible to establish the identity of the other two victims, as they were totally devoid of any identification documents. We assume they have been searched and robbed of their personal belongings, before our arrival, by the locals.
Not far from the wreckage, we have also discovered some care packages, as well as a radio transceiver.
All the items have been handed to 2nd Lt. Stefano Bartolucci, of the Ceggia-station of the German SS police."

On 11/22/1944, San Donà di Piave, was being overflown by the 15th AF bombers, returning from their missions into Germany, Austria and NE Italy
Per https://www.armyaircorpsmuseum.org/november-1944-army-air-forces.cfm
"11/22/44 Fifteenth AF
205 HBs hit E and W M/Ys at Munich. 214 others fail to reach primaries because of impenetrable weather and attack alternates and T/Os including M/Ys at Regensburg, Salzburg, Lienz, and Villach and several T/Os at scattered points. Ftrs provide escort to Munich. ..."
It is therefore quite possible that the P-51 Mustang, of the 325th Fighter Group of the US 15th Air Force, which shot down Rayns, was part of the escort to those missions.

The village of Ceggia is located about 32 km N-E of Venice, therefore, the date, number of victims in the crash, and above all the fact that they were identified as flying some type of covert mission, leads me to believe this shootdown and the one mentioned in the book are one and the same.

Unfortunately, the "Formiché" district, and the "Tenuta Garibaldi", no longer exist, and therefore pinpointing the exact location is hard, to say the least!
There is a "Via Formighé" street (I'm pretty sure there is a typo in Antoniazzi's report) that possibly, encompasses the old district, beginning at the coordinates 45.65874878987504N, 12.61009950739393E and ending at the coordinates 45.689236048774994N, 12.617063120222724E.

I hope this provides further details on your heroic uncle's unfortunate demise.

Best regards.

Peter Zanella
 
Bless my brave Uncle Jack. Credit to all heroes. Lied about his age and signed up to serve his country at 15. Never ever forgotten, Jack. You live on in my youngest, Charlie Jack. My mum’s heart was broken the day you passed. Hope you are together again now xxxx
Hi
I run Quorn Village On-line Museum (www.quornmuseum.com) and I am currently writing a short piece about Jack Rayns for a display I am doing about about Quorn in WW2 for the Great Central Railway 1940s weekend at the end of May, to honour those from Quorn who died in WW2. Back in 2014 I wrote a book about the 78 young men from Quorn who died in WW1, and any research I do now, will be used (hopefully with more detail) when I write a similar book about those from Quorn who lost their lives in WW2. Jack appears on Quorn War Memorial and as with WW1, I am so passionate that as time passes these young men are remembered as real people and not just carved names on a war memorial. One of your Jack's sisters was in touch with Pauline Shacklock (sadly no longer with us) from Quorn in the late 1990s and supplied some information for her book 'The Royal British Legion in Quorn'. It would be brilliant if you could possibly email me on team2026@quornmuseum.com so that more of his story and short life could be known.
Kindest regards
Sue Templeman
 
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