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Can someone in charge of this web site please make the distinction that for all U.S. forces, there is only one Special Operation Force in the US military called Special Forces, they wear the Green Beret and have worked hard for that title and to throw it around and stick it on all the SOF in the US military is wrong. Please fix it.
VR,
Don Bennett CW4(R)
10th Special Forces, 22 years
 
I am sure that no offence is intended. This site is very good and much effort has gone into it. By the way my father went to fort Bragg with 22 SAS in the 1960s for training. The outcome was most instructive.
I am sure someone will deal withyour request. Good luck.
 
I agree with Galcock, this web site is an excellent tribute to all in the SF world. I'm sure as a professional Don, you could have worded the comments better and sent a PM to John, who has worked very hard to include all in the SF Brotherhood within this web site.....

Regards,

Tartan23
 
Don, I think you have to really look at the content of this site and perhaps consider how much work one man, John Robertson, has put in to it over many decades. The title of the website is a generic one and can encompass many different worldwide units. It has obviously grown vastly over the years from when John first started and is worldwide now. That doesn't take anything away from your unit and it certainly is not a site, like some do, where people argue about whose unit is better than someone else's. Just look down the list on the right and you will see there is a vast array of different units. It's also not just about the present but also the past, and it primarily honours the fallen and the courageous, from those units. The individuals. There is no other site that I know of that has so much information free for all to view and learn from. I for one would like to thank John for all his efforts. After all if it was limited to just units with the name Special Force in their title we wouldn't have many in there, including the Special Air Service. It would have been better to personally message John with your view rather than put it on an open forum. The way you worded your message suggests you did not even read the section "about this site" on the home page written by John. I'll post it here :

"This site is dedicated to the memory of Special Forces from World War 2 to the present who served and died in places and under circumstances most of us can only imagine in our worst nightmares.

My research has taken nearly 40 years and is sadly still ongoing as wars and conflicts show no sign of abating worldwide.

I sincerely hope that no information,errors or omissions cause any offence to families or Associations.

I hope this site serves as an everlasting memorial to past,present and future Special Forces.

Please feel free to contact me re errors or additional material.

I would like to profoundly thank my son Craig who has created this site for me.

In memory of my late father-in-law Adam Anderson,PPA 1944-45.

John Robertson


Regards

Pete Rogers
 
Ok, no ?offence? meant, the man who put this site together has done an excellent job, however. It?s gosh darn embarrassing when even the POTUS our Commander and Chief mixes it up, mostly because the term Special Forces is thrown around so frequently and without much thought of what it means. Geronimo you are correct, CAG is part of the 1st Special Forces Regiment, which also includes, the active duty 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th and 10th Special Forces Groups. There are also the 19th and 20th National Guard Groups. At one time anyone, not holding an 18 MOS (Special Forces Military Occupational Specialty) in ?CAG? had to go through the Q-course, minus the selection and assessment. With the OPTEMPO these days I doubt it still applies. So great site but for those not in the know it adds to the confusion. We were briefed this summer at the Special Forces Association convention that the CDR of United States Army Special Forces Command (USASFC) has requested that we all start referring to all Special Forces organizations with the caveat ?The Green Berets? to start clarifying who is whom in the U.S. military Special Operations circle. Again, not punching anyone in the nose, just trying to get the word out there.
VR,
Bennett
 
Well said Mr Bennet from Graham Alcock. My father enjoyed his time at Fort Bragg with 22 SAS in the mid sixties. I think they were there for forestry fighting courses. I remember two US special forces officers visiting our house on the barracks at Hereford. Even to a 16 year old they seemed larger than life. For your interest Mr Bennet my father and some other SAS officers played a trick on them. They took them out for a drink in the Herefordshire country side. On the way back to base at the end of the evening they SAS drove like hell and did not stop at any major cross roads/junctions. The Americans were in the back of the mini car and all the while an SAS officer turned and spoke to them completely disinterest in the car's progress - or so it seemed to them. When they got back to base it was explained to them that they has posted men at all the cross roads to stop the traffic or so my father told me ! What do you think?
 
As a British ex-Royal Marine Commando can I add that we have always worn the coveted Green Beret. Also of course our SBS are mostly recruited from the Royal Marines Commandos. (At one time it was 100%). I know because I served in both for a total of 23 years. Our SBS have a great relationship with the US Navy SEALS of course and serve together at times. Lately we have lowered our standards by becoming closer to the SAS. But that is probably for financial reasons.

Of course our Royal Marines have always been close to the US Marines as well and still are. We have opposite sides of the globe on our respective cap badges.
 
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